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Comments on: Head of DrinkorDie cops to copyright charges

Can he fix WGA for community service? 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 06:43 GMT

"DrinkOrDie specialized in cracking anti-piracy measures in popular software, movies and other digital content, so it could be copied and used over and over."

Can he remove 'Window Genuine Advantage' validation as a community service penalty? So that I can get the security fixes, that I SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO, without the invasive WGA?

That way he's putting his skills to good use for consumers, we get back our right to privacy, we get back the right to get unconditional access to vendor fixes to their broken products. It's a win win situation.

Were these guys making copies for sale? 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 07:26 GMT

Were these the guys caught in raids a few months back that had huge duplicating facilities set up? If so, sucks to be them... Making money by selling pirate goods is totally and completely wrong.

Read the article 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 08:56 GMT

Pay attention, Tim:

"Griffiths isn't accused of profiting financially from his deeds."

Re: Were these guys making copies for sale? 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 09:06 GMT

No, none of these groups do this to make money.. It's all about the 'net equivalent of 'street cred' - who can get the latest release out first, be it movies, software apps or games..

WGA 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 09:32 GMT

"Can he remove 'Window Genuine Advantage' validation as a community service penalty? So that I can get the security fixes, that I SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO, without the invasive WGA?"

Sorry, but you agreed to the EULA like the rest of us. If you want those security fixes you have to jump through the necessary hoops. You're NOT entitled unless you can prove to Microsofts satisfaction that you're a genuine licensee.

If you want to drive a car you (at least in the UK) have to own a license and on occasion you may be asked to produce it for inspection. WGA is no different to having to produce various documents for your car tax. If you want to be legal you have to provide the necessary info.

EULA comes after the sale 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 09:53 GMT

"Sorry, but you agreed to the EULA like the rest of us."

No I didn't, I paid my money, got my computer, the sale was made and I went home. I do not accept after sale contracts.

"If you want those security fixes"

I want merchantable goods, you sold me defective goods. I want them repaired. This is my right under the Sale of Goods act.

"If you want to drive a car you (at least in the UK) have to own a license and on occasion you may be asked to produce it for inspection."

So says UK Law RTA 1988 sects 164 & 165. Last time I checked Microsofts EULA were just attempts to pass off a sale as a contract via an after sale EULA. Now you're trying to pass off the EULA as a law?

I repeat, I am entitled to demand merchantable goods or get defective goods repaired.

I am entitled to ignore after sale contracts as attempts to change the sale terms after the fact.

I am entitled to my privacy.

He could remove WGA and he would be doing a service to consumers by stopping this *** that Microsoft pulls.

Windows is a consumer product. 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 10:00 GMT

I dont have to provide a license to get my toaster fixed why should I need to produce a license before I can get my defective OS fixed?

An OS is nothing like a car! The reason drivers are licesed is that you can run over and kill children and old ladies with a car.

EULA comes after the sale 

Posted Wednesday 25th April 2007 10:13 GMT

I want merchantable goods, you sold me defective goods. I want them repaired. This is my right under the Sale of Goods act.

Nope. They didn't sell you any goods.

You have bought a license to use Windows.

The EULA (which you agreed to by buying a computer with a licensed copy of Windows installed) says that MS can do whatever they want, they still own your copy of Windows.

The only way round it is to buy a computer without MS installed, or provide evidence that you do not accept the EULA (e.g. photos of you formatting the harddrive in the store) and ask for a refund - you'll probably need to go to a small claims court for this.