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Free anyway?

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 08:53 GMT
Flame

Since developers can publish their software free on itunes anyway and have Apple host it for them, for FREE, whats the point?

Oh yeah, sorry, forgot the hackers want to be clever and cool.

Then again, maybe they could try getting out more and meet some women, drink some beer or something instead of sitting in darkened rooms jerking off over how clever they are.

Because....

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 09:35 GMT
Go

I presume that Apple will only publish software that complies with the restrictive usage rules of the SDK, which would, for example, exclude Java. So there is a point after all, and there's no need to descend to silly ad hominem insults.

@First comment

By Stu
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 10:35 GMT
Stop

Perhaps you should do your research before posting stupid comments like that.

Apple are being extremely restrictive over what you can do with your iPhone/iPod Touch, eg a VoIP client will likely be out of the question - a kick in the teeth for the iTouch (A 3rd party microphone has been developed for it).

Also you cant implement anything that runs in the background, such as any instant messaging clients or anything that pops up messages or completes tasks whilst doing ANY other thing on the phone - it must be launched from the springboard in a wholely 'modal' manner (A Windows'ey term meaning only one functional window useable, until you dismiss it). Very old hat.

I for one congratulate the iPhone Dev Team for the iPwnageTool - simply because it liberalizes the iPhone platform.

@Stu

By Jared Earle
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 11:18 GMT
Jobs Halo

"eg a VoIP client will likely be out of the question - a kick in the teeth for the iTouch (A 3rd party microphone has been developed for it)."

Apple have specifically said VoIP will be fine over WiFi. As the Touch only has WiFi, I will be expecting VoIP clients on day one.

The apps you're not allowed: bandwidth hogs, porn, malicious apps, VoIP-over-Edge ... you know, the usual ones you'd expect.

@First comment

By Simon
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 12:17 GMT
Jobs Horns

In addition to the previous comment about this it's also worth noting that:

You have to pay for a signing certificate if you want to put an app you've developed onto an iPhone/iPod touch. This applies even if your app is going to be free, and even if you only want to put it on your own device.

At the moment you can only apply for a certificate if you are in the US. Everywhere else will have to wait. Even in the US most of the people who applied for a certificate have been rejected and told to try again later in the year.

I've not jailbroken my iPod touch yet, but I think the restrictions on the SDK might be what push me to do it.

imprimatur - word of the day August 19, 2004

By Jonny F
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 12:22 GMT
Paris Hilton

Just like the author, now that i know it, i too can not wait to find an excuse to use it :-)

http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2004/08/19.html

VoIP over WiFi? Has it actually been done via official SDK?

By Stu
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 13:33 GMT
Pirate

I'm sure I read somewhere that even VoIP over WiFi was actively discouraged - to protect the Mobile network operators interests and profit margins.

In fact I would think that any app that would use a totally unsanctioned hardware addition to the iPod Touch (the 3rd party mic) would not be accessible via the official Apple SDK - the iTouch wasn't supposed to have 'Audio In' capabilities.

Does anybody know if the SDK allows access to audio input from a microphone on an iTouch? I've not got a Mac to find out.

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Another restriction - They've only come up with the SDK for the Macintosh. I for one ain't going out to buy one of those piles of poo just to write code for my iPod Touch. I am neither a Mac fanboi or a Windows fanboi.

@Stu

By Phil Rigby
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 14:38 GMT
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Piles of poo? How old are you, 7? Plus read the article - Windows version expected within 24 hours. Grow up.

@phil

By Steve
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 15:11 GMT
Stop

It really is poo, so many other phones let you run apps (mostly java, symbian and win-mobile) and some, like the sony ericsson's, HTC's etc let you minimise one app, run another and leave apps running minimised.

This is simple functionality which people are used to having on PDA's and to some extent phones. Without it yes the iPhone has a new poo on it's pile.

@Phil again

By Steve
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 15:16 GMT
Coat

Stu was talking about the SDK not the hack, I suggest you read the comments before answering them...

Thank you Steve

By Stu
Posted Friday 4th April 2008 17:48 GMT
Pirate

Yes I wish ppl would read the comments before replying.

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Dont get me wrong here - I love the whole iPod Touch / iPhone thing - its a great platform, but its brand new - and Apple are not (imho) being very conducive to its overall development and improvement, what with their software release policies and what they think the whole iPhone experience should be like (no background apps for instance).

They are being far too big-brother-ish over its nurturing, saying what can and cannot be done with quite a bit of restriction.

Lets face it, we all pay good money to Apple for, even, the iPod Touch - I'd like to do what I want with it (but not writing viruses of course) - especially if I put the time into developing the app for it myself.

Thats why I'll stick to hacking open my iTouch and will eventually get round to looking into developing for it, all without using the official SDK - OR Apples approval.

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What I was referring to being a 'pile of poo' though, is the Macintosh platform. But Phil if you prefer - okay its a pile of utter SHIT. Better?

Why this is needed

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Saturday 5th April 2008 14:04 GMT
Heart

..because I want porn on my iPhone. Why should the Church of Apple deny my porn needs.

@Stu

By Paul
Posted Sunday 6th April 2008 10:55 GMT
Jobs Horns

"They are being far too big-brother-ish over its nurturing..."

Isn't that ironic considering their big Macintosh ad campaign in 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R706isyDrqI